Showing posts with label Narcissist. Show all posts
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Sunday, March 24, 2024

11 Things That Happen When You Discard the Narcissist First

 11 Things That Happen When You Discard the Narcissist First

By Janey Davies, B.A. (Hons)

Posted on March 24, 2024
 
 


Narcissists only think of one thing: themselves. But no relationship can survive such a one-sided and selfish partnership, so narcissists must resort to manipulation tactics such as gaslighting and pathological lying to maintain the facade.

However, there comes a time when their partner realizes they’re in a toxic relationship and walks away. So, what happens when you discard the narcissist in your life? The narcissists have lost their narcissistic supply, which they’ve invested time in and nurtured. They’re not likely to give you up easily.


What happens when you discard the narcissist first?

It is important to remember that narcissists view their partners as possessions. They own you. You have no rights unless it benefits the narcissist. They decide when the relationship is over, not you. You do not have permission to leave.

When thinking about what happens when you discard the narcissist, keep in mind they fall into two groups:
Grandiose or vulnerable

Grandiose narcissists have enormous egos and a monumental sense of self-worth. Their unwavering belief in their magnificence leads to a staggering sense of entitlement. This type of narcissist doesn’t need anyone to validate their importance; they just want an audience to play to, so they are furious when you discard them.


How dare you! They are the best thing that happened to you, and you disrespect them?

Vulnerable narcissists are fragile and desperate. Their self-esteem is low, and they desperately crave attention to boost their delicate egos. Vulnerable narcissists require constant reassurance, and need people around them to validate their self-worth. These types of narcissists fear rejection as it confirms their self-loathing and paranoia.

Each type of narcissist will react to the discard in different ways. Here are 11 things that happen when you discard the narcissist first.

11 things that happen when you discard the narcissist first

1. They plead with you to come back

A narcissist, whether grandiose or vulnerable, cannot cope with a lack of control, so when you discard them, they will have to react. However, it’s the vulnerable narcissist that’s more likely to plead with you not to end the relationship. By finishing it, you’re acknowledging their worst fears; they’re not worthy of love, and everyone hates them.

2. They love bomb you

Narcissists don’t care about contacting you if they’ve discarded you. That’s because they’re in control.

But if you pull away, they’ve lost that control. They’re not concerned about the relationship, it’s about that control. They’ll have to get you back. One tactic is love-bombing, where they’ll bombard you with messages of undying love, fake apologies, and promises to change.

3. They threaten suicide

Some narcissists go to extreme lengths when you discard them.

Online forums dealing with narcissist partners shed a light on the crazy things they do, for example, screaming and shouting, sitting in a catatonic state for days, refusing to take prescribed medication, threatening to drive off a bridge or to walk into traffic, trips to A&E for suspected overdoses and much more.

4. They gaslight you about the relationship

One thing that happens when you discard the narcissist first is they’ll fall back on tried and tested tactics that worked during the relationship to draw you back in.

They’ll gaslight you into thinking about why the relationship failed, hoping to persuade you they were not to blame. They lie about things they did to make you question your memory of past events. The result is you doubt your recall.

5. They’ll blame you for everything

Grandiose narcissists won’t take a discard lying down. They’ll come back and attack you. Everything will be about them, how you destroyed their life, how it’s all your fault, how heartless you are to leave them. Nothing is ever their fault.

It’s always about how life is such a struggle for them, how unfair it is to them, and now you’ve ruined everything. They are the real victim.

6. They try to make you jealous by flaunting a new relationship

Both grandiose and vulnerable narcissists use envy to get your attention. They’ll flaunt a new relationship (or narcissistic supply) by plastering it all over social media. They’ll find their soulmate, the true love of their life, and bang on about how wonderful it is.

Narcissists don’t do well on their own. Their parasitic lifestyle requires them to feed off others. Showing off a new partner does two things; it shows you they don’t need you anymore and makes you jealous at the same time.

7. They tell you they’ve changed

Narcissists will try to convince you they have changed, and they deserve a second chance. They’ll manipulate you with any means to reconnect. They’ll guilt-trip you or use your weaknesses against you. Nothing will be off-limits. This is a method of hoovering, highly tailored to ensnare you back into the relationship.
8. They target your friends and family

Another type of hoovering is appealing to your family and friends. This is a passive way of getting your attention, but no less worrying.

The narcissist will stop at nothing to regain contact and control. They might say how worried they are about you, or that they have something important to discuss with you. They’ll try every and any avenue.

9. They play the victim

If the narcissist doesn’t get anywhere with their hoovering attempts, they’ll badmouth you instead. Narcissists are pathological liars and will spread lies about you. They’ll play the victim.

A narcissist will twist the narrative of your relationship to anyone who’ll listen. They’ll tell people you’re emotionally unstable and that they only stayed with you out of the goodness of their heart. They’re the ones that gave you a second chance when, in fact, they’ve begged to come back.

10. They devalue you

One strategy narcissists use is devaluing when you discard the narcissist first. First, they groom you by love bombing you into a relationship; this is the idealization part, then they devalue you before discarding you.

Narcissists abhor being discarded. It doesn’t matter to them that the relationship is over (it’s not over until they say it is). While you are trying to extricate yourself from the relationship as gently as possible, they’ll turn nasty.

11. They’ll fly into a narcissistic rage

Have you ever witnessed a narcissistic rage? It’s frightening to see the mask slip. Narcissists project a false image to the world. They believe they’re special and entitled to whatever they want, so when you present the narcissist with a setback or the truth about a situation, they fly into a rage.

This anger is completely out of proportion to the perceived slight. It’s dramatic and shocking.

Final thoughts

When you discard the narcissist first, they will use anything in their power to regain control, but there’s only one thing you can do. Those with experience advise going ‘no contact’. The thing to remember is that to the narcissist, you are an object. They don’t care about you. You’ll never be their priority.

If you find it difficult to maintain no contact, write a list of all the times they were abusive. Then, when they try to cajole you back into a relationship, take out this list and ask yourself if you want to go through that again. Because it will never get better.

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Janey Davies
 
 
Sub-editor & staff writer at Learning Mind
Janey Davies has been published online for over 10 years. She has suffered from a panic disorder for over 30 years, which prompted her to study and receive an Honours degree in Psychology with the Open University. Janey uses the experiences of her own anxiety to offer help and advice to others dealing with mental health issues.
 
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Saturday, December 23, 2023

31 Funny Things to Say to a Narcissist to Beat Their Ego

31 Funny Things to Say to a Narcissist to Beat Their Ego

By Janey Davies, B.A. (Hons)

Posted on December 23, 2023
 
 



I don’t know about you, but I’m not great at thinking up witty comebacks. Actually, that’s not strictly true. I can think of funny things, but about 24 hours too late. That’s why I like to keep a running catalogue in my head, so I can pluck the perfect response to any irritating person or situation.

And even if you prefer the Gray Rock Method, it’s always good to have a few extra one-liners up your sleeve. Here’s 31 funny things to say to a narcissist.


31 Funny Things to Say to a Narcissist

When a narcissist acts like a victim.


1. “You should get down from that cross. We need wood for the fire.”


2. “Doesn’t it hurt your arms, hanging off that cross all day?”

Narcissists love to make out they’re a self-sacrificing martyr, when we all know they only think about themselves. This putdown is perfect when they’re blaming you for their dire circumstances or complaining that they have to do everything.
When a narcissist is gaslighting you.


3. “If it’s a joke, I should laugh, right?”


4. “You’re right, I am crazy. Crazy in love with you, baby!”

Narcissists use manipulation tactics like gaslighting to unhinge you and make you think you’re going mad. You question your reality, and this gives them a powerful hold on you. They thrive on creating drama and drawing you into weird arguments. Either call them out or play them at their own game.
When a narcissist lies to you.


5. “That’s an interesting point. Anyway…”


6. “Can you just repeat that? I want to remember the dumbest thing I’ve heard.”

If you are looking for funny things to say to a narcissist to stop their lies, try these. The problem with narcissists is they’re delusional and believe the lies they tell. They hate to be challenged because it shows them up. Ask them to repeat whatever absurd lie they’re telling this time.
If the narcissist is humble bragging/fishing for compliments.


7. “Listen, you tied your shoelaces today, so let’s just count our blessings.”


8. “You’ll go far one day. And I hope you stay there.”

Narcissists have a desperate need for attention. They satisfy this in several ways. One is the humble brag. Humble bragging is saying something self-deprecating in the hope you’ll boost their ego.
When you want to rein in their ego.


9. “And to think……you’re the sperm that won?”


10. “You’re so ugly you can trick or treat over the phone.”


11. “Does your mom tell you to act like you don’t know her when you’re out in public?”

The thing I’ve learned about narcissists is that they have no sense of humor, nor do they understand irony. So, it’s easy to trip them up with a sarcastic comment.
When the narcissist is over-egging their achievements.


12. “The sun shines on a dog’s ass every once in a while.”


13. “Look, even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes.”

Narcissists are empty vessels that need a constant supply of attention and validation. They’ll often exaggerate or lie about their achievements to get the praise they feel they deserve.
When a narcissist wants to start an argument with you.



14. “I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.”


15. “I’d love to agree with you, but then we’d both be wrong.”

Don’t give the narcissists in your life the supply they crave. They love the interaction that arguments give them, and once you’re hooked into their drama, they’ve got your attention.


When you want to insult a narcissist.


16. “No, I don’t want fries with that.”


17. “Have you seen yourself in the mirror lately?”

I made myself laugh when this popped into my head. This multi-level insult will go over your typical narcissist because they’ll automatically assume you’re talking about their appearance. It won’t occur to them you’re criticizing their character.
When a narcissist always betters your achievements.


18. “OMG, me too!”


19. “Wow, I thought I was the only one!”

Every time a narcissist tells some outlandish/unique/interesting thing about themselves, say ‘OMG, me too!’ It steals their thunder and really upsets them.
When the narcissist is your parent.


20. “I’m so sorry you had unprotected sex.”


21. “Look, I’m the best thing to come out of you.”

It’s common for narcissists to blame their children for all their missed opportunities. Life would have been so much better if you hadn’t come along and ruined it. All those sacrifices they had to make, and you turned into an ungrateful little s**t.
When the narcissist is constantly criticizing you.


22. “I’m so sorry I totally suck at (whatever they are complaining about). I will work on being better.”


23. “Thank you for pointing that out. I won’t do it again.”


24. “You are soooo right.”

You take away a narcissist’s supply when you agree with them. They create drama to focus attention on themselves, but agreeing with their criticisms takes the wind out of their sails.
When you just need to shut down a narcissist.



25. “Have the day you deserve.”


26. “Save your breath. You’ll need it for your blow-up doll.”


27. “Listen, I’ve been called much worse by a lot better.”


28. “Why don’t you talk about something you know?”


29. “I’m impressed you could come up with that witty insult despite your obvious disadvantage.”


30. “Sorry, what was your name again?”


31. “I hope that works out for you.”


My final list of funny things to say to a narcissist are conversation stoppers. Sometimes you’ve had enough and can’t deal with the person or situation anymore. Saying stuff like ‘Have the day you deserve’ shuts them up.
Final Thoughts

You cannot control what a narcissist says or does. All you can do is control your reaction to them. If you can’t remove yourself from the situation, use any of these funny things to say to a narcissist.


Janey Davies
 
 
Sub-editor & staff writer at Learning Mind
Janey Davies has been published online for over 10 years. She has suffered from a panic disorder for over 30 years, which prompted her to study and receive an Honours degree in Psychology with the Open University. Janey uses the experiences of her own anxiety to offer help and advice to others dealing with mental health issues.
 
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Tuesday, September 19, 2023

What Is Narcissist Hoovering? 18 Worrying Signs It’s Happening to You

What Is Narcissist Hoovering?

18 Worrying Signs It’s Happening to You 

By Janey Davies, B.A. (Hons)

Posted on September 19, 2023




Narcissist hoovering describes when a narcissist makes contact after a breakup or an absence. Narcissists contact you, even though the relationship has ended. Make no mistake, this contact doesn’t necessarily mean you’re important to them. In fact, hoovering shows a lack of respect.

When a narcissist hoovers you, it’s because they think you’re an easy target. They believe they can manipulate you and use you again. It’s not because they love you and want you back. A narcissist hoovers to maintain control and power, or because their current supply of attention has ended.

“The best karma a narcissist can receive is actually the weight of your indifference and success after you leave them.” Shahida Arabi

So, how can you spot narcissistic hoovering?

18 Signs of Narcissist Hoovering

1. They reconnect after a long time

The best example of narcissist hoovering is unexpected contact after a period of absence or silent treatment. Out of nowhere, you get a text or call from your ex-partner. It can seem innocuous enough. An innocent text or voicemail asking how you are, what are the kids doing, etc., as if nothing has happened.

This is the narcissist testing your reaction. Will you take the bait and reply? If this doesn’t work, they may have to resort to more serious tactics.

2. They tell you they have changed/had therapy/worked on their issues

Did you experience gaslighting or other manipulative behavior during your relationship? Narcissists use this to manipulate you back into the relationship. They’ll insist and promise they’ve worked on their issues and there’s no reason you guys can’t try again.

Of course, they haven’t. They don’t think they have any issues.

3. They’ll apologize and ask for forgiveness

One common tactic narcissists use when hoovering is the insincere apology. They are so sorry for their actions. They take complete responsibility for how things ended.

This is a joke. Narcissists don’t take responsibility for anything they’ve done wrong. Everyone else is to blame.

4. You are the only one they’ll ever love

Narcissists use love bombing at the start of a relationship to lure you in. But they also use it when the relationship is over to entice you back. They’ll make sweeping declarations of undying love, promising you the earth and more to get you to return to them.

5. The narcissist wants your approval of their new partner

If the narcissist doesn’t get his or her own way, they up the ante to force your attention.

Several forums for narcissist survivors describe the same story. Their ex-partner has moved on with a new partner, however, they ask you to approve of their choice. It’s a seemingly civilized and mature gesture, but it’s designed to upset or provoke jealousy on your part.

6. Using other people to get to you

You may have the courage to block or ignore a narcissist hoovering, but this doesn’t mean they’ll stop. A narcissist will sidestep you and head for your family and friends.

They’ll play the victim to your parents or tell your friends how much they love you and want you back. They will even use your children to get to you.

7. They use fake reasons to contact you

If random texts such as ‘How are you?’ or ‘I was thinking about you’ don’t work, the narcissist will use phony reasons to contact you. They might be random questions like ‘What’s that word you always use for beautiful countryside?’ or ‘There’s a film on Netflix I know you’ll love.’

Remember, this isn’t about you, it’s about them reestablishing contact to manipulate you again.

8. The narcissist pretends nothing has happened

You know the relationship is over; you’ve said so several times. As far as you’re concerned, you’ve moved on. Then your ex-partner shows up at your house or workplace out of the blue as if nothing is wrong. They act as if you’re still friends. This is another gaslighting trick.

9. They become clingy


When a narcissist realizes you are going to end the relationship, they become desperate to hang onto you. As soon as they think their supply is over, they sense this and become clingy and needy. These are desperate attempts to pull you back in.

10. They guilt-trip you

Some narcissist hoovering involves exploiting your weaknesses. If you have a caring nature, the narcissist will use this to keep you in the relationship. They will make themselves the victim and put the responsibility of their care into your hands.

11. They threaten to self-harm or commit suicide

One of the biggest signs of narcissistic hoovering is threats of self-harm. How can you not respond to a text or call from an ex, telling you they’re going to kill themselves? Well, you don’t have to respond to them. Instead, call emergency services if you think they might be in danger.

12. They contact you with nostalgic memories

A narcissist will pull on your heartstrings any way they can to get you back. They may post pictures on your social media of special places you visited together. Or they might re-post a memory with a caption of their sadness at the breakup.

13. They create drama to get your attention

If suicide or self-harm threats don’t work, there are other ways of creating drama to get your attention. If you have children together, they’ll be late or a no-show at pickup time. They fake serious illnesses such as cancer to make you contact them. They post hospital pictures online or leave cryptic messages like,

‘I can’t go on like this anymore.’

14. They make up outrageous allegations about you

A guaranteed way of forcing your response is to make up something so outlandish about you, you must respond. Lies such as ‘I know you slept with my father’ or ‘Why did you steal money from my cousin?’ force you into a corner where you must defend yourself.

15. They use your fear of abandonment

When we invest time and effort into a relationship, it is difficult to let it go. However, if you have abandonment issues from childhood, it is even harder.

Any good manipulator will sense this about you. That’s why many of us stay in abusive relationships, because being alone is worse. The narcissist will play to your fears, telling you they want to look after and protect you. It’s all nonsense of course. They don’t give a toss about you.

16. ‘Why can’t we just be friends?’

It seems innocent enough. Let’s break up on good terms and remain friends. In any other ‘normal’ relationship, I would say this is a civilized way of dealing with ex-partners. But not with a narcissist.

This is an insidious form of narcissist hoovering. They want something from you. You are still useful to them, whether it’s money, accommodation, attention or whatever they need from you.

17. They spread fake gossip about you

If someone started a vicious rumor about you that wasn’t true, you’d confront them, right? And that’s exactly what your narcissist ex is hoping for. They just need an ‘in’. They don’t care whether it’s a negative way in or a positive one.

18. The narcissist contacts you on special anniversaries

The narcissist can use special dates or events as an excuse to contact you. It’s a perfect form of narcissist hoovering and can work well if you don’t understand the manipulation behind it. The following messages help wheedle their way back into your life:

‘Good luck with your exam today.’

‘Happy Birthday for tomorrow. I wanted to be the first to message you.’

‘Thinking of you on the day of your dad’s funeral.’

So, those are the signs, but why do narcissists hoover?

Why Do Narcissists Hoover?



Narcissists hoover because they need constant validation. Inside, they are vacuums, lacking emotion, compassion, personality and empathy. The narcissist relies on others to exist. They need an audience, a supply of attention. It threatens a narcissist when their supply ends.

They resort to any measure necessary to claw back that supply. Narcissists often keep many sources of supply on the go at any one time. It’s a little like how a hyena will stash several carcasses so they can return at their leisure and pick at the meat.
What Narcissistic Hoovering Really Is

Narcissist hoovering is not love. When an ex-narcissist makes contact, they are telling you their current supply isn’t working out and they need you to fill that void. They want their ego stroked and they reckon you’re pretty easy pickings, so they’ve opted for you.

It’s not a compliment, it’s them showing how little they think of you.

How to Stop a Hoovering Narcissist

The only way to stop a hoovering narcissist is to go no contact. Block them, don’t react to anything, ignore their messages/threats/cries for help. Don’t give them any attention and you’ll stop feeding their supply. Think of them as an addict and you are the drug.

“It is the narcissist’s ability to affect you that gives them power over you.”

Final Thoughts

Narcissist hoovering comes in different forms, but it has the same purpose; to reestablish contact. The narcissist wants something from you. Going no contact is how you can stop them repeatedly manipulating you.

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Janey Davies



Sub-editor & staff writer at Learning Mind
Janey Davies has been published online for over 10 years. She has suffered from a panic disorder for over 30 years, which prompted her to study and receive an Honours degree in Psychology with the Open University. Janey uses the experiences of her own anxiety to offer help and advice to others dealing with mental health issues.

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